| 21st September 2007 11:49 PM |
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| topo |
so i was dunk with bad fred the other night and he's waxing roger corman's car something fierce. Now I respect RC but the man yelled at me once and it didn't sit well with me. Mostly cause he was misinformed which made him look like an idiot in my eyes. I don't think he'll ever lose to much sleep over it. Maybe he just wasn't happy that I got him dragged into a court room. whatever.
anyway bad fred's going on about how little shop of horrors was shot in two days at the end of a completely seperate shoot that he'd got financing for. Smooth move yes, but I was like why suck his dick over. It's nothing I couldn't do or Bad Fred for that matter. Let's just say he disagreed with me.
so the bet goes:
I have two days allowed for production and 7 days for post. And I have till midnight November 1st.
But that doesn't clinch the bet. The film has to be screened by ten people and they have to rate it a 5 or better on a scale of 1-10. If I don't get at least a 50, I have to pay him $300.
I also have a side bet with slampig with 6 to 1 odds. If I pull it off I get 300 from him, if I lose/fail I owe him 50 bucks.
So I have a premise that uses only exteriors in LA, two principal characters, a boy and a girl. The boy is an incredible singer songwriter and the girl is fucking gorgeous and loves to get into barfights. those aren't the character descriptions, well they sort of are actually, but that's them in real life.
Anyway I have a begining and an ending, but I need filler! I need a solid second act. I need a goal for the girl, something that drives her.
Basically the guy come on a bus to LA on the heels of losing his fiance to cancer. He arrives on the eastside of downtown LA and starts walking around. Soon after he gets mugged and rescued by the girl, who for all intents and purposes is or appears to be homeless.
He has an address for an uncle he hasn't spoken to in ten years. That's his only contact in LA. The girl offers to escort him to the address as she has nothing better to do and she's curious about his guitar.
So that's about what I have. My ending was going to be the girl at somepoint leaving him cause he finally snaps out of his death daze and starts judging her choices, behavior etc.
the address for his uncle turns out to be no good, it's now a del taco or something and he ends up sitting on the sidewalk somewhere in santa monica. he takes out his guitar and starts playing a song. A high powered record exec is walking dowm the street yelling at someone on his cell phone, when he hears the kid. He hangs up the phone and listens.
that's the end.
I NEED FILLER!
if nothing else recomendations on movies I should watch to steer me in the right direction.
and there's no script. it's all going to be improved. So I just needs lots of points to hit. If you can imagine there's going to be even less crew than fbfb.
it's just me and a camera and two actors. with a few cameo parts.
i qued my dinner with andre, slacker, two lane blacktop and american buffalo. |
| 22nd September 2007 12:57 AM |
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| topo |
i had a thought a while ago that it'd be cool to do a documentry about walking from downtown to the beach.
I think we're gonna just do that. spend two days sort of homeless. I don't know if it's such a good idea. i get pretty pissy when I'm tired.
she's gonna want to get a tattoo with him. they can get a tattoo.
anything helps.
i guess maybe we could bring a car. i feel like if we walked it their performances would be more authentic. |
| 22nd September 2007 04:31 AM |
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| jedgar. |
I'M DRUNK, MAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!! |
| 22nd September 2007 07:26 AM |
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| rollerfink |
okay here is what you do:
1. instead of making the guy a singer/songwriter, make him a cancer dancer. he worked for some big new york corporate corporation (in a suit) when his wife got sick. his wife's only chance was to go on some experimental drug but his HMO health insurance wouldn't cover the drug so he quit his job and dedicated himself to breakdancing across the country to raise enough money to pay for it.
new york to LA
he originally met his wife on the beach in LA --- whatever that beach is called -- (and they did it in the sand dunes).
so the beach in LA is his final destination. he has calculated it all out (coz he's a wall street smart guy) and that's exactly when he'll have enough money to pay for the drug.
so he hits downtown LA and some news reporter is interviewing him on the streets while he dances (this is where your movie starts and you get the backstory in from the conversation between him and the reporter).
then he tells the reporter that he'll have just enough money as soon as he hits the beach (WE"RE THEY MET)
then the reporter holds her hand to her ear and says oh, hold on, i'm getting some breaking news. oh, this is devistating. your wife just died dude. then the reporter is all oh, cut, cut, this story is over guys, let's pack up.
and suddenly the cancer dancer is alone in his breakdancing gear.
he takes off one of his adidas' and chucks it away, angry at the world.
then clunk. the shoe hits the girl in the face.
fuck she says. fuck. what the fuck. her face is bleeding. what the fuck. she stomps over to the guy and chucks his shoe back at him. it hits him in the guts. he doubles over and she starts wailing on him. punching him in the face. he slumps down on the ground. she slumps next to him all tired and sweaty.
then they make out. and both start crying.
i've got to go he says. to the beach. i have to go to the beach.
bull-shit she says. not until you do something about this. she points to her busted teeth. your fucking shoe did this to my fucking teeth and you're going to fucking pay mr mc fucking hammer toes.
the guy cries again.
oh fuck she says. stop fucking crying. I'm the one with half a fucking tooth hanging out my asshole.
my uncle is a dentist he says through the tear, he could probably fix it. he lives here in LA. but i have to get to the beach.
fuck the beach. we're going to see your mr uncle fucking dentist first.
okay he says. but then i'm going to the beach.
fine. whatever.
so they head off. but he starts breakdancing as they walk.
what the?
it' something i have do he says as he pops and locks down the street. i have to finish this.
2. they get to his uncle's dentist shop but it's not there anymore. it's an uncle jack's snack shack
3. i don't know something else happens and he goes to the beach and has some epiphany. then the gir's wig falls off. holy shit she has cancer too. and that's why she's homeless coz she couldn't afford the medical bills!!!
IT'S A HEALTHCARE MOVIE
plus there's a fight scene
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| 22nd September 2007 07:28 AM |
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| rollerfink |
then al roker walks past and shrugs his shoulders |
| 22nd September 2007 05:14 PM |
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| topo |
it's not a comedy!
i like the al roker bit though. |
| 22nd September 2007 06:36 PM |
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| rollerfink |
quote:
topo wrote:
it's not a comedy!
that's why there's a fight scene |
| 23rd September 2007 06:54 AM |
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| topo |
that's funny.
i just saw strange brew for the first time.
great fucking movie. |
| 23rd September 2007 08:29 AM |
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| Antilles Ragu |
netflick the last detail |
| 23rd September 2007 08:36 AM |
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| Antilles Ragu |
-why is the homeless girl homeless?
-did the singer dude come to LA to get famous?
-do they fuck? how long before they get romantic if at all?
-after the singer dude finds out his uncle isnt there what does he do? where does he go? why does the homeless girl follow him or does she even follow him?
why could and/or couldnt the singer and the homeless girl just get together and be happy/whats the nature of the sexual tension?
-could there be a point where their roles in the relationship are the reverse of what they were at the beginning? |
| 23rd September 2007 08:40 AM |
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| Antilles Ragu |
i was imagining the going to the uncles house as being the goal for the 1st act. like thats the initial thing they can bond over, trying to find this place, meet cute etc. then when they find that the uncle's place isnt there, you move into a 2nd act where they are forced to reassess whether or not they need each other. |
| 23rd September 2007 09:54 PM |
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| topo |
-why is the homeless girl homeless?
I WAS THINKING THIS WOULD MAYBE BE ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE SHE ACTUALLY HAS A FAMILY BUT SOMETHING WENT WRONG, MOLESTATION OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S A BRILLIANT QUESTION. I'M NOT TOTALLY SURE YET WHY SHE'S HOMELESS.
-did the singer dude come to LA to get famous?
SORT OF. NOT SO MUCH TO GET FAMOUS. MORE LIKE THE ONLY THING LEFT THAT HE CAN THINK OF TO DO. IMAGINE SOMEONE HAVING ONLY TWO PASSIONS IN LIFE AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS DIES. HE DEFINITELY WANTS A RECORD DEAL, BUT I DON'T THINK FAME IS REALLY ON HIS MIND.
-do they fuck? how long before they get romantic if at all?
I DON'T REALLY SEE THEM HAVING THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP. I SEE IT MORE AS A BUDDY PIC KIND OF THING. THE WAY I SEE HIS CHARACTER HE'D NEVER BE ABLE TO HANDLE A GIRL LIKE THIS AND I THINK SHE TAKES TO HIM MORE AS A LITTLE BROTHER. MAYBE HE REMINDS HER OF HER BROTHER OR SOMETHING.
-after the singer dude finds out his uncle isnt there what does he do? where does he go? why does the homeless girl follow him or does she even follow him?
SHE DOESN'T REALLY FOLLOW HIM, IT'S MORE OF AN ESCORT, MOR OF A I'LL SHOW YOU THE WAY. I THINK SHE JUST DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO AND IS CURIOUS.
why could and/or couldnt the singer and the homeless girl just get together and be happy/whats the nature of the sexual tension?
YEAH I DON'T REALLY SEE AN SEXUAL TENSION. I DON'T THINK SHE'D BE INTO HIM LIKE THAT AND I SEE HIM AS BEING KIND OF NUETURED BY THE DEATH OF HIS FIANCE.
-could there be a point where their roles in the relationship are the reverse of what they were at the beginning?
POSSIBLEY, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A FULL REVERSAL THOUGH. I WAS KIND OF THINKING OF JUST HAVING HER HAVE MORE OF AN IMPACT ON HIM THEN HIM ON HER.
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| 23rd September 2007 10:01 PM |
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| topo |
quote:
Antilles Ragu wrote:
i was imagining the going to the uncles house as being the goal for the 1st act. like thats the initial thing they can bond over, trying to find this place, meet cute etc. then when they find that the uncle's place isnt there, you move into a 2nd act where they are forced to reassess whether or not they need each other.
i like the notion of them having to reassess whether they're interested in staying together. I was thinking though that the uncle's house should be more of a third act break thing. Cause after the house I was going to have him wander around a bit then set up shop on a corner and try to play for some change. while on the corner is when he'd be found by the record exec.
i'm fucked I have to really dig this story out. there's like nothing there right now.
thanks for the questions though. everything helps. |
| 24th September 2007 05:36 AM |
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| rollerfink |
homeless people are revolting. maybe you should just make it so she is on vacation. or on a smoke break.
also you should place cans of coke evrywhere and tell everyone that you got paid $8,000 for it. people will be all oh wow, he's pretty savvy. no wait, not coke. you should place pacey from dawson's creek everywhere and tell everyuone you got paid $8,000 for it. |
| 26th September 2007 06:00 AM |
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| topo |
i came up with something to help pass the time in the film. also happens to be kind of a play on little shop of horrors. the homeless girl, who it seems is in her situation mostly due to apathy and laziness, constantly nags the guy to play guitar for change on the streets so that she can go buy booze.
kind of like moranis poking his finger for the plant. kinda.
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| 26th September 2007 11:47 AM |
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| rollerfink |
i know why she's homeless.
she dedicated her life to becoming the world champion of pogs. SHE DID IT! but alas pogs have gone out of style and now she is left with nothing except her lucky ALF pog and a trophy that says world champion -- the mind poggles.
this is a comedy right? |
| 26th September 2007 03:14 PM |
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| Antilles Ragu |
corman's little shop of horrors is really antisemetic too. you shoud add that. |
| 27th September 2007 10:24 AM |
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| jedgar. |
ADD SOME TALKING RATS |
| 28th September 2007 01:34 AM |
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| rollerfink |
and dune buggies! |
| 28th September 2007 03:47 AM |
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| Antilles Ragu |
and this guy
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| 29th September 2007 06:36 PM |
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| rollerfink |
is that a penis on the end of his beard? hey topo, you should grow a penis on the end of your beard! |
| 29th September 2007 09:24 PM |
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| jingleberry |
quote:
rollerfink wrote:
is that a penis on the end of his beard? hey topo, you should grow a penis on the end of your beard!
is that a beard on the end of his penis? |
